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A Catholic who follows Rome & the Magisterium. I'm against gay "marriage", abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, human cloning. Altar girls, Communion in the hand, Eucharistic Ministers and "Protestant" music in the Church doesn't bother me at all. A proud American retired submarine sailor. Our borders should be secured with a 10 ft. high fence topped by concertina wire with minefields out to 20 yards on both sides and an additional 10 yards filled with warning signs outside of that Let's get energy independent NOW! Back Israel to the max, stop appeasing followers of the Pedophile Prophet. Pro 2nd Amendment, pro death penalty, Repeal all hate crime legislation. Back the police unless you'd rather call a hippie when everything hits the fan. Get government out of dealing with education, childhood obesity and the enviornment. Stop using the military for sociological experiments and if we're in a war don't micromanage their every move. Kill your television, limit time on the computer and pick up a book. God's will be done and may He have mercy upon us all.

Thursday, June 25, 2009

Before and After Vatican II, Novus Ordo, TLM, etc.

When are Catholics in general going to get their heads out of their asses?

Since I began blogging a few years back I routinely run across Catholic sites bemoaning the Novus Ordo Mass, slamming the changes since Vatican II, denigrating the use of the Traditional Latin Mass, casting the time before Vatican II as the Dark Ages, etc. The fighting never stops. It's like a large (and dysfunctional) family bickering their lives away as the house they're in burns down.

Hey folks, there's a whole culture out there flying apart because no one is showing a moral example. I stand corrected, maybe the Amish are but they're not exactly mainstream. The Bible tells us to be in the world but not of it, well we've got the second part right. How about we get going on the first part?

IMHO we need to stop all the penny ante bullshit, start working together and try, REALLY TRY to get our nation and it's culture back on track instead of staying in our echo chambers and slamming anyone who doesn't dot all the "i's" and cross the "t's" in a way we like.

Okay, that's off my chest. Time to go start getting supper ready.


Joe of St. Thérèse said...

The key to saving our culture is saving our Liturgy.

Subvet said...

Joe, amen to that but how is this accomplished by the constant sniping from one camp to the other. And BOTH forms of the Mass are approved by the Vatican!

Living where you do I can understand your frustration with the abuses taking place, that isn't the case everywhere.

Joe of St. Thérèse said...

Exactly, Both forms are approved, and the Holy Father wants both the OF and the EF to enrich each other.

I can only report on what happens in LA, because that's where I live, haha. I know several places that do celebrate the OF the way it should be, and we need to pray that the OF is celebrated with the mind of the Church instead of all these abuses that we see in many places.

Fortunately the places where I usually go for Mass in the OF, things are done by the books and very reverently.

Both sides really need to get a grip on the situation and think with the mind of the Church, and I do not exclude myself from this, my frustration comes mostly from where I am, Liturgical Purgatory, There are so few places that do Mass by the rubrics here in LA, it's not funny at all. Abuses from the NO any of us have the right to condemn and in charity we should correct them, but to condemn the Mass itself would be wrong. Juridically both are equal.

Subvet said...

"Liturgical Purgatory", I'll just bet.

Several years ago before returning to the Church I was reading about the completion of Taj Mahoney. I remember remarking to the wife that his diocese must really suffer because of his ego.

You REALLY have my sympathy!

Joe of St. Thérèse said...

Exactly why I'm praying for an early retirement from Mahony. Though the Taj Mahony is much smaller than his ego...We need a wrecking ball for that building.

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