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A Catholic who follows Rome & the Magisterium. I'm against gay "marriage", abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, human cloning. Altar girls, Communion in the hand, Eucharistic Ministers and "Protestant" music in the Church doesn't bother me at all. A proud American retired submarine sailor. Our borders should be secured with a 10 ft. high fence topped by concertina wire with minefields out to 20 yards on both sides and an additional 10 yards filled with warning signs outside of that Let's get energy independent NOW! Back Israel to the max, stop appeasing followers of the Pedophile Prophet. Pro 2nd Amendment, pro death penalty, Repeal all hate crime legislation. Back the police unless you'd rather call a hippie when everything hits the fan. Get government out of dealing with education, childhood obesity and the enviornment. Stop using the military for sociological experiments and if we're in a war don't micromanage their every move. Kill your television, limit time on the computer and pick up a book. God's will be done and may He have mercy upon us all.

Saturday, June 25, 2011

New York Catholics: BOHICA!

( - In the wake New York passing a law that legalizes same-sex marriage in the state, the Roman Catholic bishops of New York have released a statement saying they now expect efforts to enact laws that go after churches that insist on teaching the "timeless truths" about marriage and family.

"We strongly uphold the Catholic Church's clear teaching that we always treat our homosexual brothers and sisters with respect, dignity and love," the bishops said.

"But we just as strongly affirm that marriage is the joining of one man and one woman in a lifelong, loving union that is open to children, ordered for the good of those children and the spouses themselves," the bishops said. "This definition cannot change, though we realize that our beliefs about the nature of marriage will continue to be ridiculed, and that some will even now attempt to enact government sanctions against churches and religious organizations that preach these timeless truths."

The statement was signed by the bishops of all eight Roman Catholic diocese in the state of New York, led by Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the Manhattan-based Archdiocese of New York. The other bishops signing the statement included Bishop Howard Hubbard of the Albany Diocese, Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of the Brooklyn Diocese, Bishop Edward Kmiec of the Buffalo Diocese, Bishop Terry LaValley of the Ogdensburg Diocese, Bishop Matthew H. Clark of the Rochester Diocese, Bishop William Murphy of the Rockville Centre Diocese, and Bishop Robert Cunningham of the Syracuse Diocese.

The New York State Senate passed the same-sex marriage bill late Friday and Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Catholic, signed the bill into law at 11:55 Friday night. The state assembly has passed the bill the week before. The law will go into effect in 30 days.

The law was enacted just in time for New York City's annual "gay pride" parade, which takes place on Sunday. The parade runs along Fifth Avenue, passing directly in front of Saint Patrick's Cathedral, the seat of the Catholic Archdiocese of New York.

"The passage by the legislature of a bill to alter radically and forever humanity's historic understanding of marriage leaves us deeply disappointed and troubled," the New York bishops said in their statement.

"We worry that both marriage and the family will be undermined by this tragic presumption of government in passing this legislation that attempts to redefine these cornerstones of civilization," they said.

"Our society must regain what it appears to have lost--a true understanding of the meaning and the place of marriage, as revealed by God, grounded in nature, and respected by America's foundational principles," said the bishops.

The Declaration of Independence justified the American colonies' break from Great Britain based on "the Laws of Nature and Nature's God" and famously stated that all men "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights."

New York State Sen. Ruben Diaz was the only state senator to speak out against the same-sex marriage bill on the Senate floor yesterday. "God, not Albany, has settled the definition of marriage a long time ago," Diaz said.

Diaz is a minister in the Church of God.

(End of story, my comments follow)

So now the Empire State is recognizing gay "marriage". Wonder who is next?

This issue is every bit as crucial as the fight against abortion, embryonic stem cell research and euthanasia. It's flown beneath the radar as long as it has because let's face it, not too many people give a damn what a couple of other adult humans do behind closed doors. I certainly don't.

But this isn't just about legally performing sexual acrobatics with the partner of your choice. It has a lot of other ramifications. For an eye-opening account of how the legalization of same sex marriage plays out, go here:

So the issue IS of importance, especially for those of us with small children. Just how long will it be before the militant gays and their allies ban ALL teaching that typifies homosexual acts as disordered, repugnant and immoral? Think it can't happen? Guess again. Who would have thought twenty years ago that one of the big topics in politics would be "marriage" for homosexuals?

I recall a story told about the rise of religious persecution in Soviet Russia. Seems that at first the churches were closed, then the clergy was disbanded and finally all citizens were warned that holding religious views wasn't illegal in itself but you couldn't teach those views. That teaching included anything you might say in the quiet of your home. One poet at the time summed it up as, "You can pray to God, but in a way that only He can hear you."

Yes, she was shipped off to the gulag shortly afterwards.

We don't have gulags or reeducation camps, we have "sensitivity training". Look for an increase in that for those not toeing the popular line. We'll be required to successfully attend such training in order to get our kids back, keep our jobs (ask the Southwest Airlines pilot who recently left his mike on
while ranting about flight attendents.) Was he "reeducated" in diversity because he doesn't like fat older women or because he doesn't like gays? Not important, both are equally nonPC. But while he could go home every night after "training" and never had his basic liberties infringed upon, his ability to hold his job depended on his repentance and docile adherence to groupthink. The pill is sweeter but just as deadly, look for it to be more aggressively applied. Soon, real soon.


ignorant redneck said...


SubVet, we need to be prepared for the persecution that's coming a surely as stink after shit, and we need to decide, each of us, how we will deal with that.

Anthony S. Layne said...

I like what the Crescat has on her sidebar: "The time of persecution is coming. If brought up on charges of being a Catholic I hope there's enough evidence to convict me."

WomanHonorThyself said...

o gosh they will be persecuting all religious folks for hate crimes ..sick! have a super Sunday my friend!:)

Gospace said...

Should be titled "Mormal New Yorkers- BOHICA", for it affects the rest of us who aren't RC.

Changed my party registration to Conservative; mailed the form yesterday.

Subvet said...

IR, yep it's a-coming. Even Archbishops Chaput & Dolan have commented on it's inevitability.

Subvet said...

Anthony, I pray theres plenty for my own conviction also.

Subvet said...

WHT, for Jews like yourselve it's likely to be more intense. Once the official okey-dokey comes out, the latent anti-Semitism of the liberal establishment will go full throttle into persecuting you.

Subvet said...

Harold, I assume you mean "normal". Good point.

Mary Ellen said...

I know this may sound stupid, but what does BOHICA mean?

Subvet said...

Mary Ellen, not stupid at all. It'a an acronym from Bend Over, Here It Comes Again.

Mary Ellen said...

Okee-dokey! :-D

Most Rev. Gregori said...

Subvet, I live in New York State and I know for a fact that the only reason this bill was passed, was because four Republican legislators, who had been endorsed by the Conservative Party of New York, decided to turn traitors against the very people who elected them. The bill would not NEVER have passed without those four deciding to jump on the gay bandstand. The next thing that WILL come to New York State, now that this abomination has been passed, will be the allowing of the homosexual lobby to enter our public schools to indoctrinate our children and grandchildren, starting in kindergarten, into accepting the homosexual life-style as normal. Then when they are in middle school (around age 13) they are then taught how to perform various homo and lesbian sex acts. If you doubt what I am saying, just go to and read what is going on in Massachusetts. This same thing is taking place in California and all other states that have legalized same-sex marriage.

Knowing how the gay agenda, right from the very beginning, was a slippery slope, I know that their next step will be come after Christian and Catholic Churches to demand the right to be married in churches, and you can bet that the State WILL pressure the churches to comply.

I also know that "Love" of their partners, and wanting the right to inherit their partners' money and Social Security Benefits, and being covered under their partners health insurance, had absolutely NOTHING to do with their demand for legalized same-sex marriage, because they were offered same-sex unions which would have covered all those things. The REAL reason they insisted on legalized same-sex marriage was because "marriage" would actually be the government giving its endorsement, legitimacy and blessings to their unnatural and immoral life-style. That is what they wanted and that is what they are getting.

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