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A Catholic who follows Rome & the Magisterium. I'm against gay "marriage", abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, human cloning. Altar girls, Communion in the hand, Eucharistic Ministers and "Protestant" music in the Church doesn't bother me at all. A proud American retired submarine sailor. Our borders should be secured with a 10 ft. high fence topped by concertina wire with minefields out to 20 yards on both sides and an additional 10 yards filled with warning signs outside of that Let's get energy independent NOW! Back Israel to the max, stop appeasing followers of the Pedophile Prophet. Pro 2nd Amendment, pro death penalty, Repeal all hate crime legislation. Back the police unless you'd rather call a hippie when everything hits the fan. Get government out of dealing with education, childhood obesity and the enviornment. Stop using the military for sociological experiments and if we're in a war don't micromanage their every move. Kill your television, limit time on the computer and pick up a book. God's will be done and may He have mercy upon us all.

Tuesday, January 04, 2011

"I don't think that word means what you think it means..."

Found this at

Abstinence redefined?

A study published this week in the journal Pediatrics says ten percent of teens who said they were abstinent also tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease. But an advocate for abstinence says the sex-education curricula in most schools could be blamed for those numbers.

Of the 964 teens who tested positive for an STD, 118 claimed they had not had sexual intercourse in the last 12 months, and 60 said they had never had intercourse in their lives. The study, based on its findings, recommends that all teens receiving clinical services -- regardless if they self-report as being sexually abstinent -- be tested for prevalent STDs such as gonorrhea and chlamydia.

Valerie Huber of the National Abstinence Education Association tells OneNewsNow that 75 percent of young people in America are receiving explicit contraceptive-centered education that defines "abstinence" subjectively. She believes that could be one of the reasons why teens who say they are abstinent have an STD.

"Because in these curricula [teens] are given free rein to define abstinence in any way, including whatever doesn't cause a pregnancy or however they want to define it," she explains. "And we know that there are a lot of behaviors that put them at risk for sexually transmitted diseases."

Huber says the abstinence programs that her organization promotes are very clear about what constitutes safe and unsafe behavior.

"[When we talk about abstinence] we're talking about avoiding all of the activities that put a young person at risk," says the abstinence advocate. "So if they receive the skills and the motivation to truly remain abstinent [as an abstinence program defines it], they have absolutely zero-percent chance of acquiring a sexually transmitted disease."

It is "crazy," she adds, that some would try to redefine abstinence.

(End of story. My comments follow.)
When the affair with Monica Lewinsky came to light, wasn't one of the excuses given by "Slick Willie" something along the lines of "Well it really wasn't sex?"

If you're wondering where our children get their ideas...


Mike in CT said...

Yeah, I've been getting into an interesting conversation (okay, I'm trolling) at about Wisconsin covering free contraception etc. Someone tried to cite this study to claim to me that abstinence doesn't work because many teens don't really know what abstinence means.

ignorant redneck said...

You might not want to publish this--but I've known teens who used 'frottage' or nude "outercourse" to be "abstinent". As well as the old high school special, mutual masturbation. I also have known people who felt that oral sex wasn't "real sex". Nude "outercourse" will get you anything that intercourse will get you.

The problem is, kids have hormones, no experience and so many messages about how cool it is to do be sexually active, they can't seem to make good decisions.

Personally, the best deterrent I have seen was the fellow who was always cleaning his gun when someone picked up his daughter for a date.

Subvet said...

Mike, it figures. Defining "abstinence" as anything BUT vaginal penetration will allow for a lot of problems. They can all then be cited as proof that "abstinence" doesn't work.

Subvet said...

IR, I'm not surprised. Revolted but not surprised. Must be a sign of age.

As for the guy with the gun, it doesn't always work. During the time I goofed off at a local community college back in the 90's I found myself tutoring some folks in Algebra. Two of my students, an older man and a girl in her twenties, started a conversation with me regarding dating.

The older guy very gleefully told of how he always was cleaning his guns or knives when his girls brought a date around. He felt that really deterred any hankypanky.

The girl just looked at him. When the older guy left she turned to me and said, "Thats the same crap my old man tried to keep the boys from me. It's why I started screwing anything that wore pants until I met my husband. He wanted to know me first and so we stayed out of bed until we got married."

That was a little TMI for me, I just said something along the lines of, "So let's go cover the quadratic equation now."

Unknown said...

And you were staring at that college girl thinking, "Why do I always meet them AFTER they stop screwing around?!"

Subvet said...

Arby, since my wife reads this blog I'll just say "once a sub sailor always a sub sailor".

MightyMom said...

haha, Arby....DON'T give a man in a hole a shovel! ;-) j/k babe

Nate said...

In a relativistic society (like we've got) the definition of a word is 'whatever you think it means'.

Subvet said...

The Watcher, all true. Unfortunately it leads to losing all sense of right & wrong.

Kelly said...

I just found your blog and I am enjoying reading it.
Initially what caught my eye was the title of this the reference :)

Kelly @

Subvet said...

Kelly, welcome and hope you come back often.

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