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A Catholic who follows Rome & the Magisterium. I'm against gay "marriage", abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, human cloning. Altar girls, Communion in the hand, Eucharistic Ministers and "Protestant" music in the Church doesn't bother me at all. A proud American retired submarine sailor. Our borders should be secured with a 10 ft. high fence topped by concertina wire with minefields out to 20 yards on both sides and an additional 10 yards filled with warning signs outside of that Let's get energy independent NOW! Back Israel to the max, stop appeasing followers of the Pedophile Prophet. Pro 2nd Amendment, pro death penalty, Repeal all hate crime legislation. Back the police unless you'd rather call a hippie when everything hits the fan. Get government out of dealing with education, childhood obesity and the enviornment. Stop using the military for sociological experiments and if we're in a war don't micromanage their every move. Kill your television, limit time on the computer and pick up a book. God's will be done and may He have mercy upon us all.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

The U.K. on an express ride to Hell.

Found this at Breitbart.com, it follows up a previous story I blogged on here.

The lower house of parliament approved legislation Wednesday allowing scientists to create animal-human embryos for medical research, in the biggest shake-up of embryology laws in two decades. (Holy shit, isn't anything sacred?)

Despite opposition from religious and pro-life groups, MPs in the House of Commons backed the Human Embryology and Fertilisation Bill by 355 votes to 129. It will now go to a vote in the House of Lords, and could be law by November. (Something to look forward to, or not.)

The wide-ranging bill, which has been debated for months, would also allow "saviour siblings" -- children created as a close genetic match for a sick brother or sister so their genetic material can help treat them. (Great, what's next? Using the savior siblings as ready spares?)

In addition, it gives lesbians and single women easier access to in-vitro fertilisation (IVF) treatment by removing requirements for clinics to consider a child's need for a father. (Yep, because homosexuals deserve a walking, talking lifestyle accoutrement just like their hetero peers.)

Health Minister Dawn Primarolo told lawmakers the bill was about helping the one in seven couples who needed fertility assistance, and about research to deal with diseases such as Alzheimer's, which affects 350,000 Britons. (What the hell is wrong with using adult stem cells?)

Hybrid embryos, created by inserting the nuclei of a human cell into an animal egg, can ensure a more plentiful supply of stem cells for use in research into treating conditions like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. (And this route has to be taken for what specific reason?)

Prime Minister Gordon Brown is a strong defendant of the measures, saying Britain owes it to future generations. His son, Fraser, has cystic fibrosis, a disease which could one day benefit from embryo research. (Didn't a former German chancellor have the habit of citing future generations? Hint: He used to hang wallpaper.)

However, 16 MPs from his ruling Labour party, including former minister Ruth Kelly, a staunch Catholic who quit the government this month, voted against the bill and religious groups warned it was the next step on a "slippery slope". (Next step my ass, they're riding a toboggan).

4 comments:

Vir Speluncae Orthodoxae said...

Jeepers! Subvet why do I hear the Twisted Sister song "Burn in Hell"?

ABNPOPPA said...

What do you expect from a country that wants to allow Sharia law?

genomic said...

Holy shit, isn't anything sacred?

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but given that we do research with human tissue all the time, and given that that is all an embryo is, I'm not sure what should be sacred. Given the sheer number of embryos that never come to term it would seem silly to declare them as anything other than what they are.

Great, what's next? Using the savior siblings as ready spares?

I believe that the idea is that people who have children that require things like bone marrow transplant could get assistance to ensure any future children are a close genetic match. I don't think that there is any suggestion that the Saviour sibling would be 'harvested', although I do find this somewhat uncomfortable.

Yep, because homosexuals deserve a walking, talking lifestyle accoutrement just like their hetero peers.

I don't see why not frankly.

What the hell is wrong with using adult stem cells?

They generally don't work in the same way, embryonic cells can be used to produce any cell type. There are various alternatives being looked at, from adult cells to umbilical blood, the problem is discounting one area of research because it makes people uneasy could limit any future progress.

And this route has to be taken for what specific reason?

It shows promise? Do you have a better idea? The whole idea here is to do research that is supposed to be beneficial and advance our knowledge.

Didn't a former German chancellor have the habit of citing future generations? Hint: He used to hang wallpaper.

I assume that this is a hint toward NAZI era eugenics by a far right fanatic, you will note that Gordon Brown is neither, and that these scientific studies bear no resemblance whatsoever to the various horrendous activities carried out by the NAZI's, unless of course you see all medicine as a eugenics program (helping weaker people from maintaining their genetic lines when they should be dying from disease)

Next step my ass, they're riding a toboggan.

Next step to what?

Subvet said...

genomic pay attention, questions will be asked after class.

1)"we do research with human tissue all the time, and given that that is all an embryo is..."

Nope, its much more, its a human being. Unborn but fully human.

2) "I don't think that there is any suggestion that the Saviour sibling would be 'harvested', although I do find this somewhat uncomfortable."

Once we start viewing humans as nothing more than utilitarian objects to be used as we see fit, there really is no reason to feel we'll draw the line somewhere. You get points for being "uncomfortable".

3) "I don't see why not frankly."

I'd guess you wouldn't. People like myself view children as a gift from God, not a lifestyle accoutrement.

4) "the problem is discounting one area of research because it makes people uneasy could limit any future progress."

Just because we CAN do something doesn't give us the justification to do it.

5) "It shows promise? Do you have a better idea? The whole idea here is to do research that is supposed to be beneficial and advance our knowledge. "

See my answer to #4.

6) "I assume that this is a hint toward NAZI era eugenics by a far right fanatic, you will note that Gordon Brown is neither, and that these scientific studies bear no resemblance whatsoever to the various horrendous activities carried out by the NAZI's, unless of course you see all medicine as a eugenics program (helping weaker people from maintaining their genetic lines when they should be dying from disease)"

By your standards I'd guess I am a far right fanatic. I'm surprised you left out any mention of my religious beliefs.

7)"Next step to what?"

Hell.

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