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A Catholic who follows Rome & the Magisterium. I'm against gay "marriage", abortion, embryonic stem cell research, euthanasia, human cloning. Altar girls, Communion in the hand, Eucharistic Ministers and "Protestant" music in the Church doesn't bother me at all. A proud American retired submarine sailor. Our borders should be secured with a 10 ft. high fence topped by concertina wire with minefields out to 20 yards on both sides and an additional 10 yards filled with warning signs outside of that Let's get energy independent NOW! Back Israel to the max, stop appeasing followers of the Pedophile Prophet. Pro 2nd Amendment, pro death penalty, Repeal all hate crime legislation. Back the police unless you'd rather call a hippie when everything hits the fan. Get government out of dealing with education, childhood obesity and the enviornment. Stop using the military for sociological experiments and if we're in a war don't micromanage their every move. Kill your television, limit time on the computer and pick up a book. God's will be done and may He have mercy upon us all.

Friday, December 28, 2007

About those WMD's.

I just left another blog where some self appointed sage suggested we'd have been better off putting all our efforts into pacifying Afghanistan instead of going after Iraq's Hussein. Seems there isn't a day that goes by where you won't hear someone with similar statements, inevitably any further conversation brings up the lack of WMD's found since our invasion.

FWIW, my thinking goes this way. Tip O'Neil once stated all politics are local. I've always liked that idea since it breaks seemingly complex questions down to bite size for John Q. Public. In that vein lets say a schoolyard bully has classmates that tell the yard monitor he has a gun in his locker. The monitor asks and he denies it. The tales keep pouring in so the monitor asks again. He denies it.

This goes on till the monitor promises to come to his locker in two weeks time to get the gun. During that two weeks nothing else is done. The fateful day arrives and whaddayaknow, there's no gun. Big suprise.

Every intelligence service that mattered agreed Hussein had WMD's, especially the Israeli's Mossad (get back to them in a bit). The Russians, French, Germans, Brits all agreed on their existence.

Bush warned of the coming invasion well in advance, we went into Iraq and whaddayaknow, no WMD's.

Where'd they go? Who knows, Iraq is a big country they could have been covered with sand. They and all the technicians that tended them could have been sent to Syria or some other country. That last is my favorite theory; there have been so many people who dropped out of sight during the reign of Saddam that a few hundred more would never be missed. You can bet if they were somewhere else they wouldn't be allowed out much either. With any conspiracy theory I think the stink test is an availability of corroborating witnesses. This scenario answers the test neatly.

Maybe I'm the last guy in America who believes the stinking things did exist. Call me stupid I guess.

About the Mossad. I remember reading an evaluation of various national intelligence agencies years ago. Our CIA scored really low, thanks to the work done by the Church Commission in the 70's. The Mossad was scored very high in the area of anything directly related to the survival of Israel. They were excellent within a narrowly focused area. Given the proximity of Iraq (remember the Scuds launched into Israel during the first Gulf War?), I think any shenanigans being performed there would fall under that heading.

Like I say, call me stupid but I still believe going after the WMD's was valid. I just think we were incredibly dumb to buy off on their nonexistence.

Just the opinion of a retired turd chaser, not some international espionage wonk.


Anonymous said...

They covered a whole tank in the sand, and we didn't find it for years. Why not some vials of chemicals? And then there's the Syria thing. Those are all plausible.

I also believe that the Hussein gov't did have ties to AQ. Think about this: We kicked Saddam's ass in '91, but we didn't get rid of him. We left the bully in power, and we made him lose face (all of his soldiers surrendering by the thousands?). Now he wants revenge, but knows he can't do it himself. How does he do it? By sending spies to facilitate plausible deniability to contact AQ (or other terror groups)and provide them with money and maybe other stuff to conduct terrer attacks against the US.

You're not the only one who sees the truth, my friend.

Anonymous said...

Hey I wrote about the WMD'S
Look for the post The war is lost. I have a link that shows hundreds of WMD's were found, just that our silly liberal anti American media work very hard to suppress it!

And as Sonarman said you are not alone

Sir Galen of Bristol said...

Where'd they go? Who knows, Iraq is a big country they could have been covered with sand. They and all the technicians that tended them could have been sent to Syria or some other country. That last is my favorite theory

My recollection is that in the first Iraq War, we got there found no Air Force. Where did it go? Was there never an Iraqi air force, or did Saddam send it somewhere?

Oh, yes, they all flew to Iran, just before the war started.

Why would his WMD program be different?

Subvet said...

Nice to know I'm not the only one who still believes the suckers existed! Thanks to all for your comments.

Anonymous said...

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There's also a load of information on Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, Depleted Uranium Munitions, PTSD and other items of interest to Veterans at:


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